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Re: Whish clash of ship is the largesht?
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lugnet.pirates
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Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:54:46 GMT
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In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
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> Hi,
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> I looked at the subject line and thought someone'd had a bit too much
> of the grog...*hIc!*
Oh hey, I'll drink to that! Whish way ish the grog? Captain Morgan, I hope.
> Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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> > In lugnet.pirates, Jonathan Wilson writes:
> > > Which class of ship is the largest? A man of war? Was there anything
> > > larger?
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> > 1st class ship-of-the-line, 100 guns plus. Ships-of-the-line were rated 1st
> > through 4th class. Frigates were 5th and 6th (The American super-frigates
> > could be argued to be 4th class, I imagine). Everything else was unrated • (by
> > the British system, at least). I'm not sure when this rating system began - • so
> > earlier periods (more appropriate to Piracy anyway, 1550-1700) may have used
> > different nomenclature.
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> There were some real monsters among those first-rates, however. I remember, • in
> particular, the French ship L'Orient, which was *rated* at 120 guns--but in • fact
> probably carried 140 at the time of her demise at the Battle of the Nile in • 1798
> (she blew up--go figure, there was lots of powder aboard). I'm not sure • anything
> ever got bigger than that, though--wood as a building material had a lot of
> limitations, both in size of single pieces and in resistance to torque. (Of
> course, it also had a lot of strengths too, when compared against early iron
> hulls--one reason why you saw a lot of opposition to wholly-iron hulls.)
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> "Man of War," by the way, is a generic term for combat ships; it's also the • name of
> a big nasty floating blob with lots of dangly tentacles, which is probably • more
> formidable than the actual Portuguese men of war were. Yeeeow!
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> best
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> Lindsay
Gun ratings were the golf-handicaps of their day. :-)
I remember the day hundreds of men-of-war (man-of-wars?) washed up on shore.
It was like a minefield.
Bruce
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| Hi, I looked at the subject line and thought someone'd had a bit too much of the grog...*hIc!* (...) There were some real monsters among those first-rates, however. I remember, in particular, the French ship L'Orient, which was *rated* at 120 (...) (24 years ago, 8-Mar-00, to lugnet.pirates)
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