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Re: Onwards to rtlToronto18...
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Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:46:59 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Derek Raycraft wrote:
> Calum Tsang wrote:
> > 1. Tower Height: Points are awarded by height of tower.
> > Number of blocks tall 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
> > Points 0 2 3 5 8 13 21 34
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> > 2. Tower Colour: You build the tower out of your start square colour. If a
> > tower has a block of the opponent's colour, the tower is limited to the height
> > of the home colour underneath.
> >
> > Example: You have build an 8 tall tower of mostly black, your home colour The
> > sixth block is white though. You are awarded 8 points for a five tall tower.
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> Although I proposed this rule, the problem with it is it forces anyone
> who builds towers to also sort. Since we were discussing allowing
> different levels of participation to complete, this seems a little
> restrictive.
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> I would like to suggest we reward the construction of a tower in your
> home colour, rather then penalize one that's not. That way a pure tower
> builder can compete and not have to worry about sorting.
You mean by counting ALL the blocks of your home colo[u]r? It seems like only
counting up to the wrong color would offer a big penalty for non-sorting robots.
If two non-sorting robots compete, the winner will be the lucky one, who is last
to grab the "wrong" blocks.
Another idea is to use the above scoring (ignoring the colors), then add a bonus
of +1 point per block for the right color.
That will make the scores better indicate which robots can actually stack blocks
(a very hard task, by itself)
> > 3. Home Towers: Towers are rewarded a 50 percent increase* in points when built
> > in the home square.
> >
> > * This is the one I need help setting.
This doesn't offer any scoring for a robot that ONLY sorts blocks, and returns
them home.
From what I've seen in the past, it seems like the thing to do is offer +1 point
for each block of the correct color in you home square, and -1 for each wrong
block.
Otherwise, if the wrong block score is < the correct block score, a strategy
would be to collect ALL blocks. If the wrong block score is > the correct
score, a strategy is to PUSH all blocks to the opponent's home.
So, with this, if you build Calum's 8 block tower in you home square, you would
get:
1) 8 block tower = 34 points
2) 7 sorted blocks in tower = 7 points
3) 7 sorted blocks at home, 1 wrong = 6 points
Total = 47 points
Of course, if you weren't sorting, you would more likely end up with 1/2 blocks
the wrong color: 34 (tower) + 4 (correct color) + 0 (home bonus) = 38
Which means, if you're not sorting blocks, it doesn't matter where you build the
tower, the "home bonus" should average about 0.
If you sorted the whole tower: 34 + 8 + 8 = 50
If you went out randomly building 6 block towers (no sorting)
13 (6 block tower) + 3 (right color in tower) + 0 = 16
If you only sorted blocks and returned them home, you could get up to 20 points
(max # blocks?)
If you stacked all the sorted blocks 2 blocks high (10 stacks) you could get
(2+2+2)*10=80 points
If you stacked all the sorted blocks in 1 stack at home, you'd get 10946 (20
blocks) + 20 + 20 = 10986
So, most of the points come from building towers.
Some points come from sorting.
Some points come from building at home (but only if you sort)
1) Tower Height points (give above)
2) +1 for each block of the correct color in the tower
3) +1 for each correct block in home, -1 for each wrong block at home
Just my $.02 (US)
Steve
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| In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Steve Hassenplug wrote: <snip> (...) Wow. That is lotsa good stuff, but great googly moogly! This whole thing started 'cause I asked to run a 'mini block stacking' competition. We went from a 'lets build a nifty block (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| (...) Can towers touch the sides of the arena? (...) Although I proposed this rule, the problem with it is it forces anyone who builds towers to also sort. Since we were discussing allowing different levels of participation to complete, this seems a (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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