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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Selçuk Göre writes:
> Hi Tim,
>
> Actually, I'm also thinking the subject of "is lugnet elitist?" from
> time to time, and even throw out some of my 0.02 Turkish liras about the
> subject in some cases, both in RTL and here in Lugnet. I'm strongly
> against elitism and alienating newcomers from the place.
This may be semantics and I may be repeating myself, but like I said, I think
a meritocracy (that is, the "rule" of those with merit) based elitist system
is a good basis for a specialised hobby community like LUGNET. I think it IS
semantics rather than fundamental disagreement, because in the part that I
snipped you cite several examples of people who I would consider part of
the "elite" under my definition and you explain why you give them credence..
because they are worthy, that is they merit that credence...
The only one example I would challenge is the example you gave of someone who
spends more than others. That's not a reason for respect, in and of itself.
Spending a lot may be an obsession out of control, or maybe an indulgence if
you have the resources to indulge yourself (why does Jay Leno, the late night
talk show host, have so many antique cars?? because he can). But it's not a
sign of any particular merit. (something I need to remind myself of when I
start bragging, which I do from time to time)
It's now how big your collection is, it's what you do with it. What you
*should* do with it is enjoy it, whatever that means to you.
Me, I enjoy talking about it as well as doing it. I've expounded on
the "facets of the hobby" before, there are a lot of them. Some of us relish
the trading aspect, some the hunt for old sets or bargains in stores, some the
building, some the rendering, some the making of websites, some the creation
of software, some the collating info, some the Festing, some the gaming, some
the chatting here or on IRC or AIM, and on and on.
Ain't it grand?
++Lar
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
>
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> The only one example I would challenge is the example you gave of someone who
> spends more than others. That's not a reason for respect, in and of itself.
> Spending a lot may be an obsession out of control, or maybe an indulgence if
> you have the resources to indulge yourself (why does Jay Leno, the late night
> talk show host, have so many antique cars?? because he can). But it's not a
> sign of any particular merit. (something I need to remind myself of when I
> start bragging, which I do from time to time)
I get it. It was not a good example, it was not since I used "popular"
and "respected" interchangeably. But still I think, in some extent,
spending large amounts means somehow dedication to me, so being popular
by it, is not so bad also.
> It's now how big your collection is, it's what you do with it. What you
> *should* do with it is enjoy it, whatever that means to you.
>
> Me, I enjoy talking about it as well as doing it. I've expounded on
> the "facets of the hobby" before, there are a lot of them. Some of us relish
> the trading aspect, some the hunt for old sets or bargains in stores, some the
> building, some the rendering, some the making of websites, some the creation
> of software, some the collating info, some the Festing, some the gaming, some
> the chatting here or on IRC or AIM, and on and on.
>
> Ain't it grand?
Of course. Agreed 100%.
Selçuk
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