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Re: Preaching to the Choir
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Wed, 11 Aug 2004 05:07:14 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
  
As far as other negative aspects of gay marriage, I would only include one-- child-raising. I believe that every child has the right to have a father and a mother.

The right? I don’t think children have any such right.

“Deserve” a better word? What rights would you ascribe to children?

Yes, maybe deserve is better, although I really don’t really know if that is right either. I’ll have to think about that some more.

  
  
   They are not equal and interchangable. All things being equal, I believe it is better for a child to grow up having a mother and a father rather than 2 of one or the other.

That may possibly be so, but I have seen no evidence to support it.

   Again, all things being equal, 1 woman and 1 man is the superior and ideal family-raising scenario.

I for one would like to see your evidence to back up that claim. I’m not saying I disagree with you, I probably lean in that direction myself, but as yet I have seen no evidence of it, and I certainly wouldn’t assert it as fact.

I’m not even sure by what criteria one could use to support or reject such a claim. I go by this: men and women are very different by nature; vastly more different than men between men or women between women. They are not equal or interchangable. They each provide a wholly unique perspective that is invaluable to a child and the child-raising experience. The idea is so obvious, unless one believes that women and men are basically the same except for differing reproductive organs and hormone levels.

Well I would say that many men are very feminine and many women are very masculine, so specifying 1 man and 1 woman does not necessarily describe the best set of parents. I think it’s possible two women (or two men) can be as different in their nature as a man and a woman. I agree it’s probably good for children to be brought up by two people with different nature, but I don’t agree that necessarily means 1 man and 1 woman.

ROSCO



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(...) I can't believe this conversation is staying on a 'well gee, wouldn't it be nice if...' level. In todays age, where there are pregnant teens, single moms, and 80 year old males getting married to 30 year old women and having kids, and all of (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) "Deserve" a better word? What rights would you ascribe to children? (...) I'm not even sure by what criteria one could use to support or reject such a claim. I go by this: men and women are very different by nature; vastly more different than (...) (20 years ago, 11-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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