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Re: Is this an overreaction and a violation of rights?
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Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:16:43 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:

It may be a good start to discuss what people think the differences between

Introvert and Extrovert
Intuitive and Sensing
Feeling and Thinking
Perceiving and Judging

Though, looking at it now, it probably isn't because even these global ideas
are subjective, why these 8 and not others?

Though if I were to analyse me, INFP does fit.

  Deeper and deeper...

  In an English course a few years ago we discussed that bane of rational
thought: Postmodernism.  In a clever ploy to make PM seem like the thing to
be, the author of one of our texts assembled list that I will paraphrase:

CATEGORY A           CATEGORY B
Dynamic                    Static
Flexible                   Rigid
Becoming                   Being
Proactive                  Reactive
Anticipatory               Responsive
Expansive               Limited

and on and on.  Then the reader is urged to reflect on how these traits
apply, respectively, to Postmodernism and to non-Postmodernism (ie,
everything else).  Well no kidding!  Who wouldn't want to support a thought
process charaterized by List A?  The deck is so unashamedly stacked to make
PM seem cool and holistic and vital, since only a pedantic idiot would seem
willing to label himself as limitd, rigid, and static!  The same, in a more
general sense, is true with Myers-Briggs.
  "Perceiving and judging" is a fine paired example.  "Judging" carries a
straightforward connotation of a "judgmental" personality, and who wants to
seem judgmental?  For that matter, why is "judging" contrasted with
"perceiving?"  The two don't even particularly seem related, much less
directly opposed!  The false pairing (a false dilemma, if you're using
Critical Thinking-speak) forces the user to choose between two options when
obviously many more are possible.  The rest of the test is pretty much the same.
  And even after you wade through the morass of false dilemmas, you still
have to wonder how these answers are determined to correspond with
personality types.  Frank made a good point about food-tastiness being
subjective, and of course he's right about that.  But in the case of the
test, it's as though someone else is telling you "You find broccoli to be
delicious."
  By all means feel free to play around with the test to your heart's
content; just don't take it for more than it's worth. You seem to have come
to an understanding about its subjective nature, but you seem also to harbor
a lingering sense of "yeah, but it still describes me well."

    Dave!



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(...) <snip> (...) Now here's a debate I'm so moveable on is not really funny--my girlfriend, taking the courses at the Institute of Christian Studies, expounds the ideals that come with PM--that there is literally no one "right way" of doing (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) It may be a good start to discuss what people think the differences between Introvert and Extrovert Intuitive and Sensing Feeling and Thinking Perceiving and Judging Though, looking at it now, it probably isn't because even these global ideas (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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