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Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
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Date: 
Mon, 2 Jul 2001 15:28:43 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> 
> > The problem with the lion situation is that we are inferring our moral
> > values on it - I do not feel that they are compatible.
> 
> Sounds like you agree, then: animals are amoral. They do not have morals or
> recognise rights the way that creatures with a developed reasoning system do.

No, it sounds like you are puuting words in my mouth.

> 
> Note that to be amoral if you are not capable of being moral is not bad, it
> is not good, it just is. So no judgement of animals is intended by saying
> that they are amoral.
> 
> On the other hand I am quite happy to pass judgement on amoral humans. To
> wit: I find them not completely human.

You "pass judgement" on others too much. Who are you to infer your moral
values on others - judging them by your own standard? Do you assume you are
the role model they should aspire to?

Scott A



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  Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
 
I'm very confused. Chris: (...) Scott: (...) Larry: (...) Scott: (...) Scott, please clarify. What *is* your position? Or is it merely whatever Larry is *not*? (...) Do you not do the same? Don't I? Doesn't Larry? Don't all morally conscious (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
 
(...) Sounds like you agree, then: animals are amoral. They do not have morals or recognise rights the way that creatures with a developed reasoning system do. Note that to be amoral if you are not capable of being moral is not bad, it is not good, (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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