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Subject: 
The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Today's topic is Regular LEGO Sloped Bricks from 1958-1972.

LEGO sloped bricks today are available in many different angled slopes.
The earliest of these (and by far the most common today) are the regular
45 degree slopes.  These came out in the late 1950's, and were followed
by the low sloped and extreme sloped bricks in the early to mid 1970's,
as well as other degreed slopes in the 1980's and 1990's.

Regular sloped bricks (45 degree) first came out at the same time as the
LEGO "tubes" on the underside of normal LEGO bricks in 1958.  There was
no point in having them available earlier because without the tubes on
the bottom to hold the different layers of slopes together, a sloped
brick just wouldn't be very stable in a roof.

The very first color available was red (1958), which is still in current
production today (41 years later) in service packs.  This was followed
in 1960 with blue sloped bricks.  Black was the next color available in
the 1970's, and other followed in the 1980's and 1990's, but never with
the wide assortment that red, blue and black enjoyed earlier.

The first red and blue sloped bricks came out in service (supplemental
parts) packs.  Just like the small plates (when they came out in 1963),
the early sloped brick production was primarily for the supplemental
parts packs.  Few other sets even had any of these included (one
exception was the early Town Plan (725/810)).

From  1958-65 there were 4 different supplemental parts packs (for each
color - red or blue), sets # 280, 281, 282, 283.  Each set had specific
sloped bricks.  Here is a breakdown.

#280 - Contained 14 sloped bricks of 2 types - 2x4 sloped bricks, and
2x4 apex bricks.

#281 - Contained 21 sloped bricks of 4 types - 2x1 sloped bricks, 2x3
sloped bricks, 2x1 apex bricks and 2x3 apex bricks.

#282 - Contained 22 sloped bricks of 2 types - 2x2 sloped bricks, and
2x2 apex bricks.

#283 - Contained 20 sloped bricks of 5 types - 2x2 outside corner sloped
bricks, 2x2 inside corner sloped bricks, 2x1 (half pyramid) tri-slope
apex bricks, 2x2 roof connector apex bricks, and the 2x2 ("L")
perpendicular apex brick.  (Note:  the piece breakdown in this set was:
(10) 2x2 outside corner pieces, (5) 2x2 inside corner pieces, (3)
tri-slope pieces, (1) roof connector piece, (1) perpendicular apex
piece.)

In 1966, the 4 Supplemental Parts Packs were consolidated into 2 packs.
#280 and #282 were consolidated into pack #480 (with 23 pieces).  #281
and #283 were consolidated into #481 (with 34 pieces).  In 1969, these
numbers were changed.  #480 became #980, and #481 became #981.  But the
piece counts did not change at this time.
In 1973 #980 and #981 were replaced by one pack #934 (with 58 pieces),
and then only in red.  Also in 1973, new pack #935 came out with low
sloped bricks in red only.  These two packs have been around (in one
form or another) ever since.

From 1958 until circa 1963, all sloped bricks were made of Cellulose
Acetate.  These are much easier to spot in red than in blue.  The red
bricks have that "orange" hue that makes red the easiest color to spot
in Cellulose Acetate.  The blue is a lighter shade, but not as easy to
differentiate as the red.  The Cellulose Acetate sloped bricks are
notorious because they really show off the warping that is common to
most Cellulose Acetate bricks.

Of the 13 different types of regular sloped bricks that came out in the
late 50's, only 2 major changes have taken place.  One is the
elimination of the "L" perpendicular apex brick in the late 1960's (you
can use the tri-slope, the connector, and regular apex bricks (all three
together) to do what the perpendicular brick did).  This brick has
surprised many people who buy old used LEGO on the secondary market, and
wonder where the heck this unusual sloped brick came from!

The other change has been to the connector brick, that one that looks
like someone took a bite out of it.  Originally this brick had a tube on
the bottom with a part of it (the connector) missing.  Also, it had a
very sharp pointed end.  Since the 1960's, this piece has been
transformed slightly by the removal of the tube underneath, and replaced
with a "ridge" that makes it look like a 2x1 apex brick plus the pointed
connector.  The other change to this piece is a safety issue.  The
original connector pieces, as I already stated, had a very sharp point.
Starting in the mid-1960's, TLG started grinding down this point to a
duller point.  Over the years since then, I've noticed that this point
has always had some manual grinding done to remove its' sharpness.
Check out your examples of this piece for traces of the grinding.  The
two changes to this piece basically aren't noticed unless you really
look for them.  It hasn't affected them cosmetically.

The blue sloped service packs were discontinued in 1973, the same year
that the red low sloped bricks were introduced in a service pack.  Since
1973, the only set with a major blue sloped brick selection has been
Basic Set 733, which came out in 1980.

Then in 1998 the regular sloped bricks came out in a Black Sloped Bricks
Service Pack, but that is for part 2 of this thread.

As always, if there is something that I've said that is in error, please
let me know.

Gary Istok


Subject: 
Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:02:18 GMT
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On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:05:49 GMT, Gary Istok <gistok@umich.edu> wrote:

The blue sloped service packs were discontinued in 1973, the same year
that the red low sloped bricks were introduced in a service pack.  Since
1973, the only set with a major blue sloped brick selection has been
Basic Set 733, which came out in 1980.

I have a few copies of set 1082, a dacta set, which has equal numbers
of red and blue sloped bricks in low and medium slope varieties.  It
includes apexes and connectors, inside corners, and inverted 2x2s as
well.  This set has a copyright date of 1982 and was made in
Switzerland.  The catalog inside is a Dacta 89/90 indicating the set
was produced for at least 7 years. This set has about 300 pieces.
I will try to get an inventory up later today, and maybe a picture
or two.

Rob



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http://www.farver.com/lego/              |
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Subject: 
Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Date: 
Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:17:46 GMT
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Gary Istok:

What about the old green 2*4 roof bricks my grandparents
have?

They look roughly like this from the side:

  |\
   |\

Despite the look of the ASCII art, the dimensions are the
same as of a 2*4 brick. The sloped side is "wigly" like a
tiled(?) roof.

Play well,

Jacob

    ---------------------------------------------------
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Subject: 
Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:21:18 GMT
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What I find curious about the slopes is that we had plenty of red slopes
(they may have all been 2x2, I don't remember), but we never had any
apex or other special slopes (I remember later in life noting that "gee,
they finaly got around to adding special slopes to make more realistic
roofs"). I wonder what set(s) our slopes came from? I wonder if the
German friends who gave us our first LEGO from what they brought to the
U.S. when they stayed for a year kept all the special slopes? I know we
only had a handfull of non-general sets (all I can remember is a train
and a fire engine), so I doubt we got slopes from them. I don't know if
we had any parts packs (it's possible we came back from our Europe trip
in '72 with some).

It's a real shame our LEGO collection is long gone. I'm real curious as
to what we actually had. I suspect we may have only had a tiny bit of
Samsonite LEGO, with most of our LEGO coming from Germany (the sets we
purchased in '72 were probably purchased in Germany).

--
Frank Filz

-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com


Subject: 
Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Date: 
Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:33:48 GMT
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Hmmm - very  nice history. Thanks, Gary. That was very
interesting.

On point though - I think that bricks in colours other than blue,
red and black appeared earlier than the 1980s. I recently bought
a 386 Red Cross Helicopter,
which I believe dates from 1976 and contains a couple of white
roof bricks in both medium and shallow slopes. (It also has a couple
of white medium slope inner corner roof bricks).

It also might be worth mentioning that medium slope
roof bricks in transparent were in quite common use by the early 1970s
as vehicle windscreens.

Were trains the first sets that contained black roof
bricks? I'm sure I recall in the mid 70s wanting black
ones but being frustrated because they only had them in trains
(which I generally couldn't afford!)

Simon
http://www.SimonRobinson.com

In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
Today's topic is Regular LEGO Sloped Bricks from 1958-1972.

LEGO sloped bricks today are available in many different angled slopes.
The earliest of these (and by far the most common today) are the regular
45 degree slopes.  These came out in the late 1950's, and were followed
by the low sloped and extreme sloped bricks in the early to mid 1970's,
as well as other degreed slopes in the 1980's and 1990's.

Regular sloped bricks (45 degree) first came out at the same time as the
LEGO "tubes" on the underside of normal LEGO bricks in 1958.  There was
no point in having them available earlier because without the tubes on
the bottom to hold the different layers of slopes together, a sloped
brick just wouldn't be very stable in a roof.

The very first color available was red (1958), which is still in current
production today (41 years later) in service packs.  This was followed
in 1960 with blue sloped bricks.  Black was the next color available in
the 1970's, and other followed in the 1980's and 1990's, but never with
the wide assortment that red, blue and black enjoyed earlier.

The first red and blue sloped bricks came out in service (supplemental
parts) packs.  Just like the small plates (when they came out in 1963),
the early sloped brick production was primarily for the supplemental
parts packs.  Few other sets even had any of these included (one
exception was the early Town Plan (725/810)).

From  1958-65 there were 4 different supplemental parts packs (for each
color - red or blue), sets # 280, 281, 282, 283.  Each set had specific
sloped bricks.  Here is a breakdown.

#280 - Contained 14 sloped bricks of 2 types - 2x4 sloped bricks, and
2x4 apex bricks.

#281 - Contained 21 sloped bricks of 4 types - 2x1 sloped bricks, 2x3
sloped bricks, 2x1 apex bricks and 2x3 apex bricks.

#282 - Contained 22 sloped bricks of 2 types - 2x2 sloped bricks, and
2x2 apex bricks.

#283 - Contained 20 sloped bricks of 5 types - 2x2 outside corner sloped
bricks, 2x2 inside corner sloped bricks, 2x1 (half pyramid) tri-slope
apex bricks, 2x2 roof connector apex bricks, and the 2x2 ("L")
perpendicular apex brick.  (Note:  the piece breakdown in this set was:
(10) 2x2 outside corner pieces, (5) 2x2 inside corner pieces, (3)
tri-slope pieces, (1) roof connector piece, (1) perpendicular apex
piece.)

In 1966, the 4 Supplemental Parts Packs were consolidated into 2 packs.
#280 and #282 were consolidated into pack #480 (with 23 pieces).  #281
and #283 were consolidated into #481 (with 34 pieces).  In 1969, these
numbers were changed.  #480 became #980, and #481 became #981.  But the
piece counts did not change at this time.
In 1973 #980 and #981 were replaced by one pack #934 (with 58 pieces),
and then only in red.  Also in 1973, new pack #935 came out with low
sloped bricks in red only.  These two packs have been around (in one
form or another) ever since.

From 1958 until circa 1963, all sloped bricks were made of Cellulose
Acetate.  These are much easier to spot in red than in blue.  The red
bricks have that "orange" hue that makes red the easiest color to spot
in Cellulose Acetate.  The blue is a lighter shade, but not as easy to
differentiate as the red.  The Cellulose Acetate sloped bricks are
notorious because they really show off the warping that is common to
most Cellulose Acetate bricks.

Of the 13 different types of regular sloped bricks that came out in the
late 50's, only 2 major changes have taken place.  One is the
elimination of the "L" perpendicular apex brick in the late 1960's (you
can use the tri-slope, the connector, and regular apex bricks (all three
together) to do what the perpendicular brick did).  This brick has
surprised many people who buy old used LEGO on the secondary market, and
wonder where the heck this unusual sloped brick came from!

The other change has been to the connector brick, that one that looks
like someone took a bite out of it.  Originally this brick had a tube on
the bottom with a part of it (the connector) missing.  Also, it had a
very sharp pointed end.  Since the 1960's, this piece has been
transformed slightly by the removal of the tube underneath, and replaced
with a "ridge" that makes it look like a 2x1 apex brick plus the pointed
connector.  The other change to this piece is a safety issue.  The
original connector pieces, as I already stated, had a very sharp point.
Starting in the mid-1960's, TLG started grinding down this point to a
duller point.  Over the years since then, I've noticed that this point
has always had some manual grinding done to remove its' sharpness.
Check out your examples of this piece for traces of the grinding.  The
two changes to this piece basically aren't noticed unless you really
look for them.  It hasn't affected them cosmetically.

The blue sloped service packs were discontinued in 1973, the same year
that the red low sloped bricks were introduced in a service pack.  Since
1973, the only set with a major blue sloped brick selection has been
Basic Set 733, which came out in 1980.

Then in 1998 the regular sloped bricks came out in a Black Sloped Bricks
Service Pack, but that is for part 2 of this thread.

As always, if there is something that I've said that is in error, please
let me know.

Gary Istok



Subject: 
Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Date: 
Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:40:19 GMT
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Yes there were a lot of different colors available in the 1970's sets that I
hadn't gotten around to yet.  I kind of wanted to stay with the story up to
1972, but I got side tracked on the black slopes.

Gary Istok

Simon Robinson wrote:

Hmmm - very  nice history. Thanks, Gary. That was very
interesting.

On point though - I think that bricks in colours other than blue,
red and black appeared earlier than the 1980s. I recently bought
a 386 Red Cross Helicopter,
which I believe dates from 1976 and contains a couple of white
roof bricks in both medium and shallow slopes. (It also has a couple
of white medium slope inner corner roof bricks).

It also might be worth mentioning that medium slope
roof bricks in transparent were in quite common use by the early 1970s
as vehicle windscreens.

Were trains the first sets that contained black roof
bricks? I'm sure I recall in the mid 70s wanting black
ones but being frustrated because they only had them in trains
(which I generally couldn't afford!)

Simon
http://www.SimonRobinson.com

In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
Today's topic is Regular LEGO Sloped Bricks from 1958-1972.

LEGO sloped bricks today are available in many different angled slopes.
The earliest of these (and by far the most common today) are the regular
45 degree slopes.  These came out in the late 1950's, and were followed
by the low sloped and extreme sloped bricks in the early to mid 1970's,
as well as other degreed slopes in the 1980's and 1990's.

Regular sloped bricks (45 degree) first came out at the same time as the
LEGO "tubes" on the underside of normal LEGO bricks in 1958.  There was
no point in having them available earlier because without the tubes on
the bottom to hold the different layers of slopes together, a sloped
brick just wouldn't be very stable in a roof.

The very first color available was red (1958), which is still in current
production today (41 years later) in service packs.  This was followed
in 1960 with blue sloped bricks.  Black was the next color available in
the 1970's, and other followed in the 1980's and 1990's, but never with
the wide assortment that red, blue and black enjoyed earlier.

The first red and blue sloped bricks came out in service (supplemental
parts) packs.  Just like the small plates (when they came out in 1963),
the early sloped brick production was primarily for the supplemental
parts packs.  Few other sets even had any of these included (one
exception was the early Town Plan (725/810)).

From  1958-65 there were 4 different supplemental parts packs (for each
color - red or blue), sets # 280, 281, 282, 283.  Each set had specific
sloped bricks.  Here is a breakdown.

#280 - Contained 14 sloped bricks of 2 types - 2x4 sloped bricks, and
2x4 apex bricks.

#281 - Contained 21 sloped bricks of 4 types - 2x1 sloped bricks, 2x3
sloped bricks, 2x1 apex bricks and 2x3 apex bricks.

#282 - Contained 22 sloped bricks of 2 types - 2x2 sloped bricks, and
2x2 apex bricks.

#283 - Contained 20 sloped bricks of 5 types - 2x2 outside corner sloped
bricks, 2x2 inside corner sloped bricks, 2x1 (half pyramid) tri-slope
apex bricks, 2x2 roof connector apex bricks, and the 2x2 ("L")
perpendicular apex brick.  (Note:  the piece breakdown in this set was:
(10) 2x2 outside corner pieces, (5) 2x2 inside corner pieces, (3)
tri-slope pieces, (1) roof connector piece, (1) perpendicular apex
piece.)

In 1966, the 4 Supplemental Parts Packs were consolidated into 2 packs.
#280 and #282 were consolidated into pack #480 (with 23 pieces).  #281
and #283 were consolidated into #481 (with 34 pieces).  In 1969, these
numbers were changed.  #480 became #980, and #481 became #981.  But the
piece counts did not change at this time.
In 1973 #980 and #981 were replaced by one pack #934 (with 58 pieces),
and then only in red.  Also in 1973, new pack #935 came out with low
sloped bricks in red only.  These two packs have been around (in one
form or another) ever since.

From 1958 until circa 1963, all sloped bricks were made of Cellulose
Acetate.  These are much easier to spot in red than in blue.  The red
bricks have that "orange" hue that makes red the easiest color to spot
in Cellulose Acetate.  The blue is a lighter shade, but not as easy to
differentiate as the red.  The Cellulose Acetate sloped bricks are
notorious because they really show off the warping that is common to
most Cellulose Acetate bricks.

Of the 13 different types of regular sloped bricks that came out in the
late 50's, only 2 major changes have taken place.  One is the
elimination of the "L" perpendicular apex brick in the late 1960's (you
can use the tri-slope, the connector, and regular apex bricks (all three
together) to do what the perpendicular brick did).  This brick has
surprised many people who buy old used LEGO on the secondary market, and
wonder where the heck this unusual sloped brick came from!

The other change has been to the connector brick, that one that looks
like someone took a bite out of it.  Originally this brick had a tube on
the bottom with a part of it (the connector) missing.  Also, it had a
very sharp pointed end.  Since the 1960's, this piece has been
transformed slightly by the removal of the tube underneath, and replaced
with a "ridge" that makes it look like a 2x1 apex brick plus the pointed
connector.  The other change to this piece is a safety issue.  The
original connector pieces, as I already stated, had a very sharp point.
Starting in the mid-1960's, TLG started grinding down this point to a
duller point.  Over the years since then, I've noticed that this point
has always had some manual grinding done to remove its' sharpness.
Check out your examples of this piece for traces of the grinding.  The
two changes to this piece basically aren't noticed unless you really
look for them.  It hasn't affected them cosmetically.

The blue sloped service packs were discontinued in 1973, the same year
that the red low sloped bricks were introduced in a service pack.  Since
1973, the only set with a major blue sloped brick selection has been
Basic Set 733, which came out in 1980.

Then in 1998 the regular sloped bricks came out in a Black Sloped Bricks
Service Pack, but that is for part 2 of this thread.

As always, if there is something that I've said that is in error, please
let me know.

Gary Istok



Subject: 
Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Date: 
Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:42:13 GMT
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Jacob,

I have never heard of green Lego slopes with a "wiggly" slope before.
Are they LEGO?  Do they have the word LEGO on top of the studs?  If not,
then that should answer your question.  Rob, have you ever heard of
these?

Gary Istok

Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote:

Gary Istok:

What about the old green 2*4 roof bricks my grandparents
have?

They look roughly like this from the side:

  |\
   |\

Despite the look of the ASCII art, the dimensions are the
same as of a 2*4 brick. The sloped side is "wigly" like a
tiled(?) roof.

Play well,

Jacob

    ---------------------------------------------------
    --  E-mail:          sparre@cats.nbi.dk          --
    --  Web...:  <URL:http://hugin.ldraw.org/LEGO/>  --
    ---------------------------------------------------


Subject: 
Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:43:52 GMT
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Thanks Rob,  I can add that to part 2, which will include the low sloped
bricks.  And then those service packs with the low sloped outside corner in
red.  There are a lot of interesting variations, that's for sure.

Gary Istok

Rob Farver wrote:

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:05:49 GMT, Gary Istok <gistok@umich.edu> wrote:

The blue sloped service packs were discontinued in 1973, the same year
that the red low sloped bricks were introduced in a service pack.  Since
1973, the only set with a major blue sloped brick selection has been
Basic Set 733, which came out in 1980.

I have a few copies of set 1082, a dacta set, which has equal numbers
of red and blue sloped bricks in low and medium slope varieties.  It
includes apexes and connectors, inside corners, and inverted 2x2s as
well.  This set has a copyright date of 1982 and was made in
Switzerland.  The catalog inside is a Dacta 89/90 indicating the set
was produced for at least 7 years. This set has about 300 pieces.
I will try to get an inventory up later today, and maybe a picture
or two.

Rob

+-------------------------------------------+
|  Rob Farver - rfarver@rcn.com             |
http://www.farver.com/lego/              |
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/rfarver  |
+-------------------------------------------+


Subject: 
Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:44:46 GMT
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Not quite sure what period you were talking about there - though you
hint at early 70s.

They had red apex bricks by the early 1970s didn't they?

http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?query=350-1
(from 1971)

http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?query=349
(from 1971), and

http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?query=540-3
(from 1973)

(all in shallow slope)

For medium slope, I'm there was a house
with a big 1x6x3 window at the front, and some
black and white tiles arranged in a criss-cross pattern
from the early 1970s (one of my favourite sets).
I'm pretty sure that had red apex medium slope bricks,
but I haven't been able to find it on the lugnet database.
Anyone?

Simon
http://www.SimonRobinson.com


In lugnet.general, Frank Filz writes:
What I find curious about the slopes is that we had plenty of red slopes
(they may have all been 2x2, I don't remember), but we never had any
apex or other special slopes (I remember later in life noting that "gee,
they finaly got around to adding special slopes to make more realistic
roofs"). I wonder what set(s) our slopes came from? I wonder if the
German friends who gave us our first LEGO from what they brought to the
U.S. when they stayed for a year kept all the special slopes? I know we
only had a handfull of non-general sets (all I can remember is a train
and a fire engine), so I doubt we got slopes from them. I don't know if
we had any parts packs (it's possible we came back from our Europe trip
in '72 with some).

It's a real shame our LEGO collection is long gone. I'm real curious as
to what we actually had. I suspect we may have only had a tiny bit of
Samsonite LEGO, with most of our LEGO coming from Germany (the sets we
purchased in '72 were probably purchased in Germany).

--
Frank Filz

-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com


Subject: 
Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:48:31 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
Today's topic is Regular LEGO Sloped Bricks from 1958-1972.

As always, wonderful!!!   Great history of the slope.


Subject: 
Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Simon Robinson wrote:

Not quite sure what period you were talking about there - though you
hint at early 70s.

Mid '60s to early '70s.

They had red apex bricks by the early 1970s didn't they?

According to Garry's history, yes, that's the puzzlement I have, why had
I never seen them til the '80s?

--
Frank Filz

-----------------------------
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Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com


Subject: 
Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Nearest thing I can find is the roof pieces in Fabuland, but they
are larger than a 2x4 (more like 4x6).  They are green, stepped,
and "wiggly" tiled though.

http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?query=3654-1
http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?query=3660-1

Rob

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:42:13 GMT, Gary Istok <gistok@umich.edu> wrote:

Jacob,

I have never heard of green Lego slopes with a "wiggly" slope before.
Are they LEGO?  Do they have the word LEGO on top of the studs?  If not,
then that should answer your question.  Rob, have you ever heard of
these?

Gary Istok

Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote:

Gary Istok:

What about the old green 2*4 roof bricks my grandparents
have?

They look roughly like this from the side:

  |\
   |\

Despite the look of the ASCII art, the dimensions are the
same as of a 2*4 brick. The sloped side is "wigly" like a
tiled(?) roof.

Play well,

Jacob

    ---------------------------------------------------
    --  E-mail:          sparre@cats.nbi.dk          --
    --  Web...:  <URL:http://hugin.ldraw.org/LEGO/>  --
    ---------------------------------------------------



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Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Hello Gary,

Gary Istok <gistok@umich.edu> wrote in article
<37D92C5D.8826C9E@umich.edu>...
Today's topic is Regular LEGO Sloped Bricks from 1958-1972.

LEGO sloped bricks today are available in many different angled slopes.

Another wonderful account of the history of a LEGO element.  Thanks very
much.

As previously mentioned (http://www.lugnet.com/general/?n=6989) the offer
to host this material on the web is always open if you ever want it.

Regards,
Allan
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Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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Gary Istok:

Jacob,

I have never heard of green Lego slopes with a "wiggly" slope before.
Are they LEGO?

AFAIK. They are with the LEGO, and both my parents and my
grandparents say they are LEGO. I must admit that I have
never checked them for a LEGO imprint. I will do that next
time I have a chance.

Play well,

Jacob

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Rob Farver:

Nearest thing I can find is the roof pieces in Fabuland,

Definitely not those (not that we haven't got them too).

Play well,

Jacob

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Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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I remember playing with such bricks, except they were red and reminds me of
spanish tile roofs.  They came in sizes of 2x2 and 2x4 and also roof apex
pieces.  They don't build the roof by themselves but are added on top of a base
of regular offset brick roof.  I'm not sure if they are Lego, but were
definitely compatible with Lego.  This was in the pre-tube days of bricks.

Sorry, I don't have any of the pieces to photograph.

Steve

In lugnet.general, Jacob Sparre Andersen writes:
Gary Istok:

What about the old green 2*4 roof bricks my grandparents
have?

They look roughly like this from the side:

|\
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Despite the look of the ASCII art, the dimensions are the
same as of a 2*4 brick. The sloped side is "wigly" like a
tiled(?) roof.

Play well,

Jacob

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Re: The History Of LEGO Sloped Bricks - Part 1
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In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
Today's topic is Regular LEGO Sloped Bricks from 1958-1972.

Gary Istok

Woo-Hoo!!

Did all these slopes have the same texture?  I ask because I have three
different textures on my slope bricks.  Although I don't think I have any from
before 1977.

Jeff


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Jeff, you asked a very good question.  Texture was an interesting part of these
sloped pieces.  The 1958-72 parts packs basically had the same texture.  Not until
the mid-1970's did the texture on some of the LEGO bricks start to vary.  My train
station has regular blue sloped bricks in its roof.  And I have to admit that
there is a lot of variety to the texture of the sloped surfaces.  The best way to
describe it is by comparing it to grades of sandpaper.  Some of the 70's and 80's
sets had slopes that were "coarser" than came in other sets.  There are probably
about 3-5 different coarseness grades to the roof slopes.  The red slopes seem to
have a more even coarseness than the blue (or black) slopes.  The blue slopes seem
to have the greatest variations.

Gary Istok

Jeff Stembel wrote:

In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
Today's topic is Regular LEGO Sloped Bricks from 1958-1972.

Gary Istok

Woo-Hoo!!

Did all these slopes have the same texture?  I ask because I have three
different textures on my slope bricks.  Although I don't think I have any from
before 1977.

Jeff


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In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
Today's topic is Regular LEGO Sloped Bricks from 1958-1972. • <snipped excellent dissertation>
Gary Istok

I'm messing about with some ideas for upcoming projects, and this is an
excellent opportunity to ask a question which one of them sort-of hinges on:

Has there ever been/how available are: white roof peak bricks (both slopes)?

James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/


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James Brown wrote:
Has there ever been/how available are: white roof peak bricks (both >slopes)?

Low slope white roof peaks exist: there are some in 6337 Fast Track
Finish. Dunno about medium slope ones (but if there are, I want some!)

Kevin


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In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
Jeff, you asked a very good question.  Texture was an interesting part of
these sloped pieces.  The 1958-72 parts packs basically had the same texture.
Not until the mid-1970's did the texture on some of the LEGO bricks start to
vary.  My train station has regular blue sloped bricks in its roof.  And I
have to admit that there is a lot of variety to the texture of the sloped
surfaces.  The best way to describe it is by comparing it to grades of
sandpaper.  Some of the 70's and 80's sets had slopes that were "coarser" than
came in other sets.  There are probably about 3-5 different coarseness grades
to the roof slopes.  The red slopes seem to have a more even coarseness than
the blue (or black) slopes.  The blue slopes seem to have the greatest
variations.

Gary Istok


A number of slopes I have are 'pitted'.  In other words, it looks like they
have lots of little craters.  I'm pretty sure this isn't an abnormality because
the craters are all the same size.  Have you ever encountered any like this?

Jeff

Jeff Stembel wrote:

In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
Today's topic is Regular LEGO Sloped Bricks from 1958-1972.

Gary Istok

Woo-Hoo!!

Did all these slopes have the same texture?  I ask because I have three
different textures on my slope bricks.  Although I don't think I have any • from
before 1977.

Jeff


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