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Re: I hate MOCPages
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lugnet.off-topic.geek
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Thu, 2 Sep 2004 18:31:55 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Stephen F. Roberts wrote:
Blame MicroSoft (again :-)... stoopid Outlook has trained people to reply
at the top of messages.  It makes it hard to figure out what they are
talking about. If you try to interleave your comments it does crazy
formatting to the message and makes it worse...

I've tried to train people at  my office how to interleave replies with the
original comments (and fix the weird format problem). You'd think I was
teaching them how to talk Klingon... :-/

Oh, Oh, teach me!  So, how do you set Outlook to do the right thing?
I always have to cutNpaste things into an emacs window and reformat,
then interleave the replies, and paste it all back.  And even then,
Outlook always wants to show how smart it is by mangling the pasted
text.

Don

Warning, FUT set to geek.


Subject: 
Re: I hate MOCPages
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lugnet.off-topic.geek
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Thu, 2 Sep 2004 18:47:58 GMT
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On 14:31 09/02/04, Don Heyse wrote
In lugnet.general, Stephen F. Roberts wrote:
Blame MicroSoft (again :-)... stoopid Outlook has trained people to reply
at the top of messages.  It makes it hard to figure out what they are
talking about. If you try to interleave your comments it does crazy
formatting to the message and makes it worse...

I've tried to train people at  my office how to interleave replies with the
original comments (and fix the weird format problem). You'd think I was
teaching them how to talk Klingon... :-/

Oh, Oh, teach me!  So, how do you set Outlook to do the right thing?
I always have to cutNpaste things into an emacs window and reformat,
then interleave the replies, and paste it all back.  And even then,
Outlook always wants to show how smart it is by mangling the pasted
text.

When you hit reply, it does that stoopid indent thing. You just have to go
down to where you want to insert things and use the "decrease indent" (has
a little left arrow beside some horizontal bars). You may need to do an
"add /remove buttons" to find it.

I do not know _why_ it doesnt just change indent level automatically when
you hit enter, but I guess that would be too convenient...

Then you've got to use the "font colour" button to turn your text black (at
least around here, it tries to make the original message blue).

If it were just doing the decrease indent, I think people would catch on,
but having to unindent and then change colours just gets too many little
steps for most simple messages (a whole two :-)...


Course, it would be _great_ if exchange would do that little trick like
LUGNET does and send a message back to you about netiquete if you put the
reply at the top... Maybe then people would get a clue...




or even better, a strong electric shock through the KB if they do it wrong...




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aka  stephen f roberts


wildbrick.com  -  Jain's Guide : Promoting more than just the MOC


Subject: 
Re: I hate MOCPages
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lugnet.off-topic.geek
Date: 
Fri, 3 Sep 2004 20:11:15 GMT
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Don Heyse wrote:
In lugnet.general, Stephen F. Roberts wrote:
Blame MicroSoft (again :-)... stoopid Outlook has trained people to
reply at the top of messages. [...]

Oh, Oh, teach me!  So, how do you set Outlook to do the right thing?

Get OE-QuoteFix (or Outlook-quotefix) from

http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/

Suddenly Outlook (and Express) behaves like a real program...

--
Anders Isaksson, Sweden
BlockCAD:  http://w1.161.telia.com/~u16122508/proglego.htm
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Subject: 
Re: I hate MOCPages
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lugnet.off-topic.geek
Date: 
Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:44:41 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Anders Isaksson wrote:
Don Heyse wrote:
In lugnet.general, Stephen F. Roberts wrote:
Blame MicroSoft (again :-)... stoopid Outlook has trained people to
reply at the top of messages. [...]

Oh, Oh, teach me!  So, how do you set Outlook to do the right thing?

Get OE-QuoteFix (or Outlook-quotefix) from

http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/

Suddenly Outlook (and Express) behaves like a real program...

Or, you could use Mozilla Thunderbird for email.

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/

Downlad it free (it is opensource):

http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/releases/#install


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