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Re: 1970s sets in microscale
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Thomas Main wrote:
Inspired by reading Gary Istok's Unofficial Lego Sets/Parts Collector's Guide
and webpages like Brickfetish, as well as delving into my own sense of nostalgia
for classic Lego sets, I have started to build some of my favorite sets of the
past in microscale.

First up is the 550 Windmill:

Next I tried the 555 Hospital:

The most complex build in this series was the 580 Brick Yard:


I wanted this set to retain its full functionality in the microscale version.  I
am pleased with the solution I came up with for the conveyor belt - it works!
And the tipper truck is functional too (although I would have prefered blue 1x1
corner panels, they are rare and expensive in that color).  The crane slides
back and forth and raises and lowers its grabber claw (would be nice to have
these parts completely in yellow).  Although simple, I like how the digger
vehicle came out in this one.  I ran out of yellow 1x4 arches and had to use
black instead (most noticeable in the picture of the back of the building).  I
again ran into the problem of a 2-wide driveway with 2-wide vehicles' wheels
jutting out just slightly too much.


I've had fun doing these.  I spend a lot of time trying to get the look right
and rebuilding a lot.  I am fairly new to microscale, so it has been a challenge
- but a fun one.  Like Douglas Coupland says, this allows me to get into a space
called "shape head."

Any suggestions for improvements or other ideas are most welcomed.

--
Thomas Main
thomasmain@charter.net

Now this is the neatest pictures I have seen so far. This is really interesting.
You have a talent I wished I had as I love these old sets. How about a mini of
the Constellation or the wild west set 365 or even the 354?  I am going to have
to build the ones you did.  First minis that I am excited about.
John P


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Re: 1970s sets in microscale
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In lugnet.build.microscale, John Patterson wrote:
   How about a mini of the Constellation

Not positive if this is what your thinking of, but in Issue 2 of Brickjournal http://media.peeron.com/brickjournal/brickjournal2.pdf on page 48 of that issue (which is page 50 of the pdf file) are building instructions for a mini USS Constellation.





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Re: 1970s sets in microscale
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In lugnet.build.microscale, Bob Parker wrote:
   In lugnet.build.microscale, John Patterson wrote:
   How about a mini of the Constellation

Not positive if this is what your thinking of, but in Issue 2 of Brickjournal http://media.peeron.com/brickjournal/brickjournal2.pdf on page 48 of that issue (which is page 50 of the pdf file) are building instructions for a mini USS Constellation.




Thanks, yes that is the one, now I’ll have to build that one too. I really didn’t like the minis except for star wars, but what a good idea to build the 1970 sets. I really believe that the 70s were the high point of lego when they designed such complex sets with so fewer different elements.Now if they can’t figure out how to make something with the elements they have, they just add new elements. These minis brng back so many memories. John P


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Re: 1970s sets in microscale
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In lugnet.build.microscale, John Patterson wrote:
   I really believe that the 70s were the high point of lego when they designed such complex sets with so fewer different elements.Now if they can’t figure out how to make something with the elements they have, they just add new elements. These minis brng back so many memories. John P

I can see your point - its interesting how it appears to me that many AFOL’s perception of Lego “back in the good ol’ days” seems to change depending on what the Lego was like in their respective childhoods. For instance, I have always thought of the 80s and 90s as the Golden Age of Lego and also agree with you that their willingness to just make a new piece instead of trying to get the already produced pieces to work is disappointing.

With microscale, its interesting that a builder sort of has to work with a majority of what could be considered the plainer bricks of the old days since the scale is very unforgiving (well, at least to me it seems that way!). I think that capturing the look of a full size Lego set in micro is really tough to begin with and the 70s sets earlier in this thread are awesome examples of what a gifted AFOL can do with that limitation of parts!






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In lugnet.build.microscale, John Patterson wrote:
   In lugnet.build.microscale, Bob Parker wrote:
   In lugnet.build.microscale, John Patterson wrote:
   How about a mini of the Constellation

Not positive if this is what your thinking of, but in Issue 2 of Brickjournal http://media.peeron.com/brickjournal/brickjournal2.pdf on page 48 of that issue (which is page 50 of the pdf file) are building instructions for a mini USS Constellation.

   Thanks, yes that is the one, now I’ll have to build that one too.

I initially was trying to build a *micro* Constellation, but by the time it was finished I thought the model better deserved to be called a ‘mini’. Of course, this brings up the entire debate about what scale is micro, what is mini and so on. And it’s one of those debates that’s fun to have, but in the end I’m not sure it makes much difference, so long as the models are fun to build. :)

I have a feeling that a good micro builder like Thomas or Janey Red Brick could probably build an even more micro version of the Constellation... if they wanted to.

   I really didn’t like the minis except for star wars,

To me the Star Wars minis were really micro sets, but again it’s all semantics. Because I kept wondering to myself, “if these are mini, then how small would the micro versions be?” LOL

   but what a good idea to build the 1970 sets. I really believe that the 70s were the high point of lego when they designed such complex sets with so fewer different elements.Now if they can’t figure out how to make something with the elements they have, they just add new elements.

I agree with the idea that some of these sets were among the best the company has produced. Of course, I’m a LEGO kid from the 70s, so I’m biased. :) But if you look at the hospital and brick yard that Thomas duplicated you find that they were full four-walled buildings made with mostly basic bricks, plates and the occasional arch. I would argue that they’re actually not that complex, rather showcase simple but solid design theory. In other words, they’re not fancy, but they’re still really good models to build.

Allan B.


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In lugnet.build.microscale, Allan Bedford wrote:
   To me the Star Wars minis were really micro sets, but again it’s all semantics. Because I kept wondering to myself, “if these are mini, then how small would the micro versions be?” LOL


IIRC, wasn’t there some pics of somebody’s micro SW MOCs on Brickshelf a long time ago - they used a 1x1 brick for a Tie Fighter (or something like that)? It was pretty funny seeing one part MOCs like that!





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In lugnet.build.microscale, Allan Bedford wrote:
   In lugnet.build.microscale, John Patterson wrote:
   In lugnet.build.microscale, Bob Parker wrote:
   In lugnet.build.microscale, John Patterson wrote:
   How about a mini of the Constellation

Not positive if this is what your thinking of, but in Issue 2 of Brickjournal http://media.peeron.com/brickjournal/brickjournal2.pdf on page 48 of that issue (which is page 50 of the pdf file) are building instructions for a mini USS Constellation.

   Thanks, yes that is the one, now I’ll have to build that one too.

I initially was trying to build a *micro* Constellation, but by the time it was finished I thought the model better deserved to be called a ‘mini’. Of course, this brings up the entire debate about what scale is micro, what is mini and so on. And it’s one of those debates that’s fun to have, but in the end I’m not sure it makes much difference, so long as the models are fun to build. :)

I have a feeling that a good micro builder like Thomas or Janey Red Brick could probably build an even more micro version of the Constellation... if they wanted to.

   I really didn’t like the minis except for star wars,

To me the Star Wars minis were really micro sets, but again it’s all semantics. Because I kept wondering to myself, “if these are mini, then how small would the micro versions be?” LOL

   but what a good idea to build the 1970 sets. I really believe that the 70s were the high point of lego when they designed such complex sets with so fewer different elements.Now if they can’t figure out how to make something with the elements they have, they just add new elements.

I agree with the idea that some of these sets were among the best the company has produced. Of course, I’m a LEGO kid from the 70s, so I’m biased. :) But if you look at the hospital and brick yard that Thomas duplicated you find that they were full four-walled buildings made with mostly basic bricks, plates and the occasional arch. I would argue that they’re actually not that complex, rather showcase simple but solid design theory. In other words, they’re not fancy, but they’re still really good models to build.

Allan B.

I got my start in 1974 with the London Bus. A last minute Christmas present for my son. I was so amazed at the bus I went out on Christmas day to all the stores that were opened, like drug stores and grocery stores looking for Legos. There is just something missing today in the grand scale of Legos sets. They are fancy and they are colorfull and have a great variety of parts, but the simple 4 sided buildings built with a pallet of a few hundred elements is still what I prefer. If I show a non lego someone the Death Star or Imperial Cruiser or Blockade runner they are amazed. If I build a set like a 1970’s hospital or police station or brick yard I am amazed. They really had great designers in the 1970’s and I think that the company was less concerned with profit and more concerned with a quality product that would guide a child’s (or adult) imagination. My 11 year old grandaugher built the Death Star and has inherited my love of Legos. She will have one big mess to deal with when I go. John P


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