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Subject: 
Here is some Photography help!
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lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.publish.photography
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Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:07:50 GMT
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I have been listen to several mechers saying that they need to better their
digital photography skills. Well, I had some free time today, so I found
some good helpul info for them.

This site here covers all the photography basics. Be sure to read the
digital camera section and the light section, those will help you understand
your camera and the light you use and little better!

http://photographytips.com/page.cfm/1

Now this is something I wanted to throw in here too. You NEED to have an
image editor if you want nice looking pics. I use Adobe Photoshop 6.0 and I
recommend this to anyone who is serious. Downside, it's REALLY expensive.
But I propose an alturnative...Jasc's Paintshop Pro 7.04. You can download
the program for a 30 day free trial and enjoy.

http://download.com.com/3000-2192-7057820.html?tag=lst-0-15

(it also has an uninstall with it too. :D He He He. You can't figure that
out, e-mail me and I will tell you.)
Paintshop is probably the best freeware-esque program you can find for editing.

I hope you get some use out of this!

out
Tony Knaak
http://www.ozbricks.com/legostuff/index/index.html
http://www.ozbricks.com/legostuff/mechastruct.html


Subject: 
Re: Here is some Photography help!
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lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.publish.photography
Date: 
Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:33:15 GMT
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Tony Knaak writes:
I have been listen to several mechers saying that they need to better their
digital photography skills. Well, I had some free time today, so I found
some good helpul info for them.

This site here covers all the photography basics. Be sure to read the
digital camera section and the light section, those will help you understand
your camera and the light you use and little better!

http://photographytips.com/page.cfm/1

Thanks for looking this up.  A few tips that may/may not be helpful too:

*If you want a plain white background, try getting some newprint leftover
rolls from your local paper.  Ours gives em out for free, and they usually
have a TON of 'extra' paper on em, Glossy sometimes too ;)

*Use Skylight lighting!  Our house has a SWEET skylight at the edge of a
room, and that's where I get some of my best lighting for pics (only better
is a cloudy day outside SOMETIMES!)

Now I may not be the best at photo stuff, But I always try to get better,
and these things helped me a bit.  FYI, I use a SiPix SP-1300 that has like
2 Megapixels or somethin, but I got a 32 MB Flash Memory card for X-mas.
Yehaah!

Now this is something I wanted to throw in here too. You NEED to have an
image editor if you want nice looking pics. I use Adobe Photoshop 6.0 and I
recommend this to anyone who is serious. Downside, it's REALLY expensive.
But I propose an alturnative...Jasc's Paintshop Pro 7.04. You can download
the program for a 30 day free trial and enjoy.

Oooh! Thanks!  I've been using MGI-Photosuite 3, but it is just what came
with my digicam, and does not have all that I'd like it to, e.g. tool wise.
It crops and rotates, easily, but that's it.

http://download.com.com/3000-2192-7057820.html?tag=lst-0-15

(it also has an uninstall with it too. :D He He He. You can't figure that
out, e-mail me and I will tell you.)

You DAWG! ;P

Paintshop is probably the best freeware-esque program you can find for editing.

I hope you get some use out of this!

out
Tony Knaak
http://www.ozbricks.com/legostuff/index/index.html
http://www.ozbricks.com/legostuff/mechastruct.html

Thx, I plan to.

Ryan
http://graybandit0.triod.com/clan


Subject: 
Re: Here is some Photography help!
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.publish.photography
Date: 
Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:11:27 GMT
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Tony Knaak writes:
I have been listen to several mechers saying that they need to better their
digital photography skills. Well, I had some free time today, so I found
some good helpul info for them.

This site here covers all the photography basics. Be sure to read the
digital camera section and the light section, those will help you understand
your camera and the light you use and little better!

http://photographytips.com/page.cfm/1

That's a neat resource.  It doesn't seem to have much in the way of
photographing extreme closeups, though, which is a big thing with Lego.
Plenty of the correct amount of light is the key for me when taking
pictures.  I could focus all the incandescent bulbs in the frame I wanted
and it would always come out yellow.  After moving to my new digs, with
their bright flourescents, life is good.

Like Ryan mentioned, a good white background is essential.  I'm actually
using a couple of Bionicle posters as my background right now for smaller
shots.  I believe that Jon Palmer uses a large movie poster for his
backgrounds.  Those work well because they're just a touch glossy and are of
a heavy enough material to not crease easily.


Now this is something I wanted to throw in here too. You NEED to have an
image editor if you want nice looking pics. I use Adobe Photoshop 6.0 and I
recommend this to anyone who is serious. Downside, it's REALLY expensive.
But I propose an alturnative...Jasc's Paintshop Pro 7.04. You can download
the program for a 30 day free trial and enjoy.


Paint Shop Pro is indeed a great tool.  It's not as robust as Photoshop, but
95% of what most of use need (cropping, color manipulation, etc) you can do
with ease.  Every image on Brickfrenzy has been processed with PSP.  I've
been using it for years, and have actually purchased it.  I would encourage
you all to do the same :)  It's $70 right now from bestbuy.com (once a $30
rebate is applied).

http://download.com.com/3000-2192-7057820.html?tag=lst-0-15

(it also has an uninstall with it too. :D He He He. You can't figure that
out, e-mail me and I will tell you.)
Paintshop is probably the best freeware-esque program you can find for editing.

You naughty little chisel monkey.


I hope you get some use out of this!

out
Tony Knaak

Adrian
--
http://www.brickfrenzy.com


Subject: 
Re: Here is some Photography help!
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lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.publish.photography
Date: 
Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:23:28 GMT
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sun yun also has a few nice tips for digital photography on his website.
you may want to check this out: foundrydx.com


In lugnet.build.mecha, Tony Knaak writes:
I have been listen to several mechers saying that they need to better their
digital photography skills. Well, I had some free time today, so I found
some good helpul info for them.



Subject: 
RE: Here is some Photography help!
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lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.publish.photography
Date: 
Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:58:41 GMT
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Adrian Drake writes:
That's a neat resource.  It doesn't seem to have much in the
way of photographing extreme closeups, though, which is a big
thing with Lego. Plenty of the correct amount of light is the
key for me when taking pictures.  I could focus all the
incandescent bulbs in the frame I wanted and it would always
come out yellow.  After moving to my new digs, with their
bright flourescents, life is good.

I've found that if good light sources are not available, you can still
get a great picture if your camera has some manual settings.  An
aperture of f5 to f8 or so will keep the entire model in focus while
still blurring the background.  With a moderately narrow aperature like
that, you will need a long shutter time.  I often use a shutter speed of
1/2 - 2 seconds.  A tripod is of course essential for those long
exposures.  Remember that the picture on the LCD is probably brighter
than it will look on your monitor, but be careful not to wash out the
image.  It helps to take 2 or 3 shots at each angle to make sure you can
pick out a good one.
    Some of the yellowness of incandescently lit photos can be
eliminated by using the white balance feature on your camera.  However,
that almost never eliminates all the yellow.  Photoshop 7 has a very
useful tool called "Auto Color" which works wonders in eliminating poor
color balance.  For earlier versions or other programs, you'll need to
manually adjust the color balance by shifting the yellow/blue bar
further to the blue (about 5-15 percent, in my experience).  When using
Photoshop, make sure you do all highlights, shadows, and midtones.  A
great way to see to what extent the colors are off is to use an
eyedropper tool on a portion of your white background and then see what
RGB values come up.  They should all be the same if the background is
truly white.   If blue is a little low, or green a little high, you can
use Color Balance to fix it.
    Also, if your image still isn't bright enough, the best way to
brighten it while keeping the darks dark and the lights light is to move
the middle triangle in Levels in Photoshop.  This is equivalent to the
Gamma control in Corel Photopaint.
    After you've cropped, brightened, color balanced, and resampled your
image, you can sharpen it a little to bring out the details.  I find the
Unsharp Mask does the trick pretty well.  It's usually best to avoid
sharpening over 80%.  If you have a really blurry picture, try
increasing the Radius before you increase the Amount.
    If you have a bunch of pictures that were taken with similar
settings, you can record your actions while adjusting one photo.  Then
batch run those actions on all the other shots.  The results will
usually be quite good.

I hope that helps!

Like Ryan mentioned, a good white background is essential.
I'm actually using a couple of Bionicle posters as my
background right now for smaller shots.  I believe that Jon
Palmer uses a large movie poster for his backgrounds.  Those
work well because they're just a touch glossy and are of a
heavy enough material to not crease easily.

Darn, I should have kept that Bionicle poster I got at
NWBrickCon...that's a great use for it!
--Bram


Bram Lambrecht
bram@cwru.edu
www.bldesign.org


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