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I was just wondering.... I know that most of you folks build on the
minifig scale (5 brick high doors) using all those "wonderful"
(sarcastic) minifigs. Is there anyone else who builds primarily on the
classic scale (3 brick high doors - sort of the "HO" train scale)
without the minifigs? Or am I (pretentious as it sounds) alone?
Stuck in the '60s....
Gary Istok
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:58:58 GMT, Gary Istok <gistok@umich.edu> wrote:
> I was just wondering.... I know that most of you folks build on the
> minifig scale (5 brick high doors) using all those "wonderful"
> (sarcastic) minifigs. Is there anyone else who builds primarily on the
> classic scale (3 brick high doors - sort of the "HO" train scale)
> without the minifigs? Or am I (pretentious as it sounds) alone?
>
> Stuck in the '60s....
> Gary Istok
I've built some stuff on the 2 bricks=1 story scale. Not much, just
some post-modern office buildings.
The problem many of us face is that we only have parts to support
building at the 5- or 6-bricks per story scale.
Steve
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:58:58 GMT, Gary Istok <gistok@umich.edu> wrote:
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> I was just wondering.... I know that most of you folks build on the
> minifig scale (5 brick high doors) using all those "wonderful"
> (sarcastic) minifigs. Is there anyone else who builds primarily on
> the classic scale (3 brick high doors - sort of the "HO" train scale)
> without the minifigs? Or am I (pretentious as it sounds) alone?
>
> Stuck in the '60s....
> Gary Istok
I've "built" (virtually only) a 20 story building at the scale. (Easily
expandable to greater height.) You can see some renderings at:
http://chuh.org/Students/Bram-Lambrecht/LEGO/POV/
--Bram
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I'd like to post the skyscraper I designed to lugnet.cad.dat:
http://chuh.org/Students/Bram-Lambrecht/LEGO/POV/
The MPD file is approx. 100 Kb. That's not too big to post, is it?
The skyscraper that (loosely) inspired the model is in downtown Chicago
near Grant Park (I think) Does anyone know the name of the building?
--Bram
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I wrote:
> The skyscraper that (loosely) inspired the model is in downtown Chicago
> near Grant Park (I think) Does anyone know the name of the building?
I found the name! It's the New Pudential Building in downtown Chicago. When I
went to Chicago a few years ago, I liked the design of the building because it
was somewhat original. A month or so later, I was finally figuring out how
LDraw worked. The 386 I was using was too slow to use LEdit effectively, so I
made the first version of the skyscraper entirely in a text editor (and it was
my first-ever model in LDraw, too!). I even prompted James Jessiman to
create the -fs option in LDraw so that it wouldn't take me half an hour to
render two floors. By the time I had gotten to the complicated roof, I had a
486 I could use. I finished off the roof in LEdit. Recently, I came back to
the model, split it into sub-models, and reworked the design a bit.
This is the first time I've compared it to a photograph, and I must say that
I got pretty close for creating the model entirely from memory. Here's where I
found the name:
http://www.xnet.com/~jkelley/VirtualC/StdOil.html
I'll post my model to cad.dat
--Bram
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:58:58 GMT, Gary Istok <gistok@umich.edu> wrote:
> I was just wondering.... I know that most of you folks build on the
> minifig scale (5 brick high doors) using all those "wonderful"
> (sarcastic) minifigs. Is there anyone else who builds primarily on the
> classic scale (3 brick high doors - sort of the "HO" train scale)
> without the minifigs? Or am I (pretentious as it sounds) alone?
>
> Stuck in the '60s....
> Gary Istok
Groovy, man. Peace and Love.
No, I don't think you're pretentious at all. Or alone. (I am not a
town/building person myself, so my opinion may not count for much)
I think you build primarily for the esthetic value of the building - which is
great. I look at your work and expect to be wowed by the buildings, not the
people artfully arranged around them. So people are superfluous.
What scale you build on is entirely up to you and the needs of your project.
Which frees you from the tyranny of being constrained to build to suit
minifigs. Dig?
-- Terry "occasionally stuck in the '60s" K --
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:58:58 GMT, Gary Istok uttered the following
profundities...
> I was just wondering.... I know that most of you folks build on the
> minifig scale (5 brick high doors) using all those "wonderful"
> (sarcastic) minifigs. Is there anyone else who builds primarily on the
> classic scale (3 brick high doors - sort of the "HO" train scale)
> without the minifigs? Or am I (pretentious as it sounds) alone?
>
> Stuck in the '60s....
> Gary Istok
Some building facades have been "as close to the photo as
possible" scale. So depending on the building, some have been
small, perhaps to the scale you describe.
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Gary Istok wrote in message <36E955E1.75B33582@umich.edu>...
> I was just wondering.... I know that most of you folks build on the
> minifig scale (5 brick high doors) using all those "wonderful"
> (sarcastic) minifigs. Is there anyone else who builds primarily on the
> classic scale (3 brick high doors - sort of the "HO" train scale)
> without the minifigs? Or am I (pretentious as it sounds) alone?
>
> Stuck in the '60s....
> Gary Istok
I've built an Empire State Building on a scale of 1 brick = 1 floor. My
original plans were for 2 bricks = 1 floor, but I soon realized the folly of
my ways when I came to the startling conclusion that the number of bricks
required doesn't double when you double your scale, it quadruples! This
should have been obvious, but I had to think about it for awhile. Of
course, if you don't make your buildings solid (which I don't), it may not
be quite 4x, but its more than double, that's for sure.
So I don't see how people can make skyscrapers using the minifig scale.
Just seems like it would take WAY too many bricks. And it would be way too
tall to fit in a normal home too. If I remember right, a brick is about
3/8 of an inch high (or so). So, I figure an 8' ceiling could accommodate
about 51.2 floors at 5 bricks = 1 floor. That's 1/2 of an Empire State
Building. Even if I had enough bricks, it would take a large ladder and a
16' roof!
Kim Toll
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> I've built an Empire State Building on a scale of 1 brick = 1 floor. My
> original plans were for 2 bricks = 1 floor, but I soon realized the folly of
> my ways when I came to the startling conclusion that the number of bricks
> required doesn't double when you double your scale, it quadruples! This
> should have been obvious, but I had to think about it for awhile. Of
> course, if you don't make your buildings solid (which I don't), it may not
> be quite 4x, but its more than double, that's for sure.
Ummmm, If you make your buildings solid, the factor is 8! Think about
is starting with a 1x1 brick. If you double each dimension, you have a 2x2x2
volume, which is 8 1x1s.
Even a 1 brick/floor empire state building is going to be awfully tall!
Cheers,
Ralph Hempel - P.Eng
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> > be quite 4x, but its more than double, that's for sure.
>
> Ummmm, If you make your buildings solid, the factor is 8! Think about
> is starting with a 1x1 brick. If you double each dimension, you have a • 2x2x2
> volume, which is 8 1x1s.
Duh.... Of course, your right. Volume would increase by the cube; the
square only gets you area. That's probably why I was comming up with ~ 4x
difference; I was just estimating brick counts for the four faces, not for
the full volume... Guess I should do a better ananlysis before posting, eh?
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> Even a 1 brick/floor empire state building is going to be awfully tall!
>
> Ralph Hempel - P.Eng
Mine came out to be just about 4' 2" tall (including the antenna (or is it a
lightning rod?) on the top). It was quite the fun project! I didn't need a
ladder, but I did have to stand up to do the last 20 floors or so (I usually
do my lego work on the floor... I get cramps in my legs, but it works OK).
Kim Toll
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Gary Istok wrote in message <36E955E1.75B33582@umich.edu>...
> I was just wondering.... I know that most of you folks build on the
> minifig scale (5 brick high doors) using all those "wonderful"
> (sarcastic) minifigs. Is there anyone else who builds primarily on the
> classic scale (3 brick high doors - sort of the "HO" train scale)
> without the minifigs? Or am I (pretentious as it sounds) alone?
>
> Stuck in the '60s....
> Gary Istok
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When you look at a city built at the scale a three brick high door it looks
better than that of a 4 brick high door because it matches the scale of the
roads better (If you look at the scale of the road, it is better suited for
a matchbox car than a car built of Lego, and definitely not to minifig
scale)
Silas
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Silas P wrote:
> Gary Istok wrote in message <36E955E1.75B33582@umich.edu>...
> > I was just wondering.... I know that most of you folks build on the
> > minifig scale (5 brick high doors) using all those "wonderful"
> > (sarcastic) minifigs. Is there anyone else who builds primarily on the
> > classic scale (3 brick high doors - sort of the "HO" train scale)
> > without the minifigs? Or am I (pretentious as it sounds) alone?
> >
> > Stuck in the '60s....
> > Gary Istok
> >
> >
> >
> >
> When you look at a city built at the scale a three brick high door it looks
> better than that of a 4 brick high door because it matches the scale of the
> roads better (If you look at the scale of the road, it is better suited for
> a matchbox car than a car built of Lego, and definitely not to minifig
> scale)
>
> Silas
You're right. I have about 200 of the older grey road plates (the 1980's ones
without the sidwalk/bikepath. They really are better suited to the classic
scale LEGO town. Interestingly enough, the roadway width is about the same as
the 1960's cardboard Town Plan Board (#246 in USA/Canada (Samsonite), or #200
in Europe) which also came in set #725 (Town Plan). So the current minifig
scale roadway has basically the same width as the 1960's classic scale
roadway. Interesting.
Gary Istok
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