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Re: 4.5v vs 12
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Date: 
Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:53:10 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.database, Jennifer L. Boger writes:
but I thought blue rails were traditionally 4.5 while gray was
traditionally 12?


Nope, for example set 725 is a blue rails 12V set and set 7722 is a grey
rails 4.5V set.

I guess the guide uses 'did the set ship with conducting pieces' as basic
rule if a set is a 12V or a 4.5V set. By that rule all push-train sets (7710
for example) are also 4.5V trains even though they are unpowered.

I find it very hard to put railway cars into the 4.5V category - a waggon is
voltage independant, for example set 7815 (marked as 4.5V in the guide)
clearly matches the 7740 train (12V train) and it will run happily on any
(4.5V 12V and even 9V) LEGO track. Same goes for buildings, many buildings
included 12V conducting rails to make the set match both 4.5V and 12V track
layouts. If you own only 4.5V trains, set 7823 still matches your layout the
12V pieces are there to make the set "ready to play" with any train set
available at that time.

Here some of my thoughts about Trains in the set-guide...

I think there should be a 'voltage independant' section:
Items IMHO in the wrong place are 7777 idea book - it is listed under 4.5V
while the most pages deal with 12V trains.
Waggons - generally voltage independant
Buildings are also usually voltage independant (otherwise use the 'ship with
conductor piece' rule.
Accessory packs - Bogieplates and couplers are the same for 4.5, 12 and 9
voltage trains (for example sets 1135-1145).

4.5V specific items:
Trainsets including a battery car
points and crosstracks (these can only be used in 4.5V (or push) trains)
4.5 lights, batterycar (like set 5057), signal and turn element (1107)

12V specific items:
Trainsets with 12V motor
points and crosstracks (the conducting parts are integrated)
remote operated items (signals, uncoupling unit, points and the level crossing)
speed regulators and lights

I'd also like the tree to look something like this:
Trains > Accessory Elements > 4.5v
Trains > Accessory Elements > 12v
Trains > Accessory Elements > 9v

so when you select Accessory Elements you get all elements and go more
specific later on. Now setnr 1138 (rubber wheel rims) is located:
Trains > 4.5v > Accessory Elements
I think many people would have guessed to find this set in the 12V category.

-Frank



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  Re: 4.5v vs 12
 
(...) I think this is a very good idea - I was always bothered by the fact that when I'm looking for an accessory pack, I may have to look in three subgroups instead of one... :) Dan (24 years ago, 14-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.database)

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but I thought blue rails were traditionally 4.5 while gray was traditionally 12? (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.database)

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